[Discussao] Pokémon X/Y

vaati escreveu:eu tava vendo algumas imagens da coro coro e percebi que o quarto da menina estava rosa(no trailer ele estava azul),sera que a cor do quarto mudara conforme a sua escolha(ex:se eu escolher o menino o quarto ficara azul se for a menina o quarto ficara rosa)

blordello escreveu:

HickTroll escreveu:

blordello escreveu:

HickTroll escreveu:O bode já entrou pra minha lista de favoritos, o panda parece promissor, o pássaro eu amei provavelmente vou usar na equipe, só o lagarto que achei meio indefinido, esperando a evolução.

hue vai ser muito bom poder montar, mas isso abre portas pra ter que controlar o poké na hora do fly, não quero viver matando Wingulls de cidade em cidade.

Eu fui a única que achou esse bode feio? '-' Anyway, seria ótimo poder controlar a direção do Fly de seu pokémon, mas, sem ter que ficar matando Pidgeys de cidade em cidade.

E quem disse que eu achei ele bonito?? Meus pokes preferidos são, Scrafty, Garbodor , Floatzel, Electivire, honchkrow, samurott, Gliscor, Muk e agora o ir-ir-para, deles só o Floatzel é bonito, o resto tudo são apenas COOL, são feios e tem cara de monstros(e pokémon é o que?), mas são estilosos, isso pra mim é o que faz um pokémon perfeito. (esteticamente)

Não foi isso que eu quis dizer, acho que não me expressei direito... Quis dizer que achei esse bode tosco, com essas folhas no pescoço... Nada mais, um pokémon não precisa ser bonito pra ser cool

Chikoritah escreveu:

vaati escreveu:

Chikoritah escreveu:Acho que apenas o pokemon yellow teve uma Collectors Edition, bem que podiam fazer uma CE bem legal do X e Y.

você diz aquela edições limitadas do game boy color com o pokemon yellow?

Sim, não é bem uma CE né? mas é quase lá.
Gostaria de algo assim pro X e Y. Quem sabe um Art Work e um Guia legal junto com o jogo?

Eu já tenho o 3DS XL do pikachu, então se sair uma edição especial do 3DS do pokemon X e Y eu não pegaria. XD

HickTroll escreveu:

vaati escreveu:eu tava vendo algumas imagens da coro coro e percebi que o quarto da menina estava rosa(no trailer ele estava azul),sera que a cor do quarto mudara conforme a sua escolha(ex:se eu escolher o menino o quarto ficara azul se for a menina o quarto ficara rosa)

Sera que finalmente teremos protagonistas que podem coexistir no mesmo universo?

Count Bleck escreveu:Ai deus,até outubro é uma tortura!Bem q podia ter uns 2 min só pra gente controlar o personagem,tipo,num quarto branco,só pra sentir o gostinho!

vaati escreveu:

HickTroll escreveu:

vaati escreveu:eu tava vendo algumas imagens da coro coro e percebi que o quarto da menina estava rosa(no trailer ele estava azul),sera que a cor do quarto mudara conforme a sua escolha(ex:se eu escolher o menino o quarto ficara azul se for a menina o quarto ficara rosa)

Sera que finalmente teremos protagonistas que podem coexistir no mesmo universo?

finalmente?mais isso ja aconteceu antes em ruby e safira sem falar que isso tambem aconteceu em black e white 2.

Back in February we were contacted by an individual who claimed to have X and Y insider information. Of course, our standard policy is to immediately doubt anyone like this and ignore them. However, the person was able to present several facts about their first-party source that we were able to verify and, without going into too many details, no normal individual would have ever even known about the existence of said original source were they not initiated (although there was some scant information about it on the Internet that proved the source existed). While mostly convinced that this person was the real deal, we decided to not post any of their information until we could know for sure whether or not one piece of their information was real.
Then in late April, Hiro, the guy who leaked several Black and White Pokemon before they were revealed, revealed that there would be a new type in X and Y called Fairy. That's funny, I thought. The source who contacted us back in February had also mentioned a new Fairy type. I resisted every urge to post the news that the February source had e-mailed us because, for all I knew, it was the same source giving information to Hiro and could still be fake. Plus, there was still nothing about their news that had been officially confirmed yet. While I tried to contact Hiro to ask him about his source, he never got back to me, and thus I was unable to figure out if his source was the same as mine or different altogether. Although the source did claim that they had only approached me, I still wanted to be cautious. Thus, I decided again to not post any of the info.
Then this morning, CoroCoro finally gave us the first major X and Y details since the games were first announced. Among those details was one tiny little tidbit that the source had first told me about in February - that there would be a new Electric move that drains its opponent's HP. This was the only attack that the person had told me about in February, and yet it is such a specific detail to make up. For that information to be verified three months later seems to indicate that the source is the real deal (unless they are just really good at guessing).
I want to emphasize that under the worst case scenario, I am still somehow, some way, being duped. It would not be the first time to tell you the truth, and all Pokemon webmasters have fallen for fake news before. Thus, I want everyone to take this news with a grain of salt until it is actually verified by Pokemon. If it is verified, then yay, we will be able to post other news this source has sent us since February and up until today. What you will see below is a sampling of some of the news the source has sent since February.
TL;DR - The source seems to be genuine, but still take the information below with a grain of salt. We are classifying it as unconfirmed. Do not soil our beach sand with red liquid if it turns out to be fake. :p

- Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, and super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting-type Pokemon.
- Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy).
- Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
- The professor's English name is Patrice.
- The Starter final evolutions are, as many people predicted, Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark.
- The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting.
- A few attacks will be dual-typed.
- There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in.
- You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

The source has sent us a lot more information since then, including several English Pokemon names, but again, I'm not going to post any of it until something more substantial than an attack effect is verified. I don't want to look like a complete fool if all of this is fake. If Fairy type and anything else above comes to be true in the next few weeks, I'll put up the rest of the information. If all of this is fake, well, at least I didn't let a potential good source go to waste - at least I tried to deliver potentially real and substantial news.

HickTroll escreveu:

vaati escreveu:

HickTroll escreveu:

vaati escreveu:eu tava vendo algumas imagens da coro coro e percebi que o quarto da menina estava rosa(no trailer ele estava azul),sera que a cor do quarto mudara conforme a sua escolha(ex:se eu escolher o menino o quarto ficara azul se for a menina o quarto ficara rosa)

Sera que finalmente teremos protagonistas que podem coexistir no mesmo universo?

finalmente?mais isso ja aconteceu antes em ruby e safira sem falar que isso tambem aconteceu em black e white 2.

Não, ai cada um se torna um rival ou personagem secundário, to falando PROTAGONISTAS, cada um com uma origem diferente, a jornada de um não atrapalharia a do outro, se a mãe do protagonista só tem 1 filho se você escolhe o menino você joga a menina pra outro canto e ela vira filha de outra pessoa e vice e versa, no caso teriam duas mães uma cada, não se tornariam personagens diferentes independentemente da sua escolha.

resh escreveu:se o cara conseguiu prever em fevereiro um ataque tão especifico quanto o elétrico que drena hp, então n acho que devemos ignora-lo assim, e esse tipo fada seria mt bom
Fada será um novo tipo. Ele é fraco para veneno e Aço, imune ao Dragão, e super eficaz contra o Dragão, Dark, e do tipo Fighting Pokemon.
exalta o veneno e é um problema para os dragões, isso equilibraria mais o metagame

DTSN escreveu:Rumores vindos do PokéBeach, mas o próprio site não garante 100% de certeza (destaque no quote dentro do quote, em negrito): http://pokebeach.com/2013/05/supposed-pokemon-x-and-y-insider-information

Back in February we were contacted by an individual who claimed to have X and Y insider information. Of course, our standard policy is to immediately doubt anyone like this and ignore them. However, the person was able to present several facts about their first-party source that we were able to verify and, without going into too many details, no normal individual would have ever even known about the existence of said original source were they not initiated (although there was some scant information about it on the Internet that proved the source existed). While mostly convinced that this person was the real deal, we decided to not post any of their information until we could know for sure whether or not one piece of their information was real.
Then in late April, Hiro, the guy who leaked several Black and White Pokemon before they were revealed, revealed that there would be a new type in X and Y called Fairy. That's funny, I thought. The source who contacted us back in February had also mentioned a new Fairy type. I resisted every urge to post the news that the February source had e-mailed us because, for all I knew, it was the same source giving information to Hiro and could still be fake. Plus, there was still nothing about their news that had been officially confirmed yet. While I tried to contact Hiro to ask him about his source, he never got back to me, and thus I was unable to figure out if his source was the same as mine or different altogether. Although the source did claim that they had only approached me, I still wanted to be cautious. Thus, I decided again to not post any of the info.
Then this morning, CoroCoro finally gave us the first major X and Y details since the games were first announced. Among those details was one tiny little tidbit that the source had first told me about in February - that there would be a new Electric move that drains its opponent's HP. This was the only attack that the person had told me about in February, and yet it is such a specific detail to make up. For that information to be verified three months later seems to indicate that the source is the real deal (unless they are just really good at guessing).
I want to emphasize that under the worst case scenario, I am still somehow, some way, being duped. It would not be the first time to tell you the truth, and all Pokemon webmasters have fallen for fake news before. Thus, I want everyone to take this news with a grain of salt until it is actually verified by Pokemon. If it is verified, then yay, we will be able to post other news this source has sent us since February and up until today. What you will see below is a sampling of some of the news the source has sent since February.
TL;DR - The source seems to be genuine, but still take the information below with a grain of salt. We are classifying it as unconfirmed. Do not soil our beach sand with red liquid if it turns out to be fake. :p

- Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, and super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting-type Pokemon.
- Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy).
- Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
- The professor's English name is Patrice.
- The Starter final evolutions are, as many people predicted, Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark.
- The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting.
- A few attacks will be dual-typed.
- There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in.
- You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

The source has sent us a lot more information since then, including several English Pokemon names, but again, I'm not going to post any of it until something more substantial than an attack effect is verified. I don't want to look like a complete fool if all of this is fake. If Fairy type and anything else above comes to be true in the next few weeks, I'll put up the rest of the information. If all of this is fake, well, at least I didn't let a potential good source go to waste - at least I tried to deliver potentially real and substantial news.

• Fairy type, okay. I wasn’t expecting a new type after 4 generations with our usual 17 types. But it’s acceptable.. I just think that a Light type with the same weakness and effectiveness would be cooler than Fairy, imo. But anyway. It seems like they created that type to balance the actual metagame, making relatively weak types such as Poison get a boost, and over-powered/very used types such as Dragon and Fighting, a nerf (weakening). I am pretty okay with this, it’ll improve the metagame.. However, let’s continue.
  
• Sylveon Fairy type, okay. Mawile and other previous Pokemon getting the type.. Eh. Not very logical, but I can take it.
  Mewtwo has two new forms, not a problem. I personally think he doesn’t need to have new forms, but.. Well, I guess it would make some people mad, while others would really dig it.
  
• Patrice, cool name
  
• I REALLY love those types for the starters.. But wait. People predicted Grass/DARK and Water/FIGHTING, not the other way around.. I think they mixed that up. Still, pretty good combinations.
  
• Gyms, okay
  
• NOW, we get to the critical point. Dual-typed attacks. I REALLY hope they add really only a FEW attacks, because it would completely ruin the metagame at some points if they added way too many combinations. x6 and 8x super effective damages would easily break defensive/wall pokemons, turning competitive gaming into a competition to see who got faster and stronger pokemon, only. Plus, if they added double STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus), that would also be way too over-powered. Let’s take Swanna and Pelipper for example. They’re both in the Neverused tier. Then let’s take Infernape and Blaziken, both Overused. If Swanna or Pelipper ever got room for a double-typed Water/Flying Attack, that would do x4 damage due to typing, x2 for double STAB. That’s x8 damage, something WAY too powerful! Now take a tank Pokemon such as Rhyperior, Ground/Rock. Make Ludicolo use a Water/Grass attack, bam. Absurdly 16x damage for typing + 2x for STAB, totaling insanely 32x damage (if my math isn’t wrong) without a single buff. So yeah, If they’re going to put double typed attacks, make it only a few, like 2 or 3. Otherwise, it would break the metagame.
  
• That would be interesting!
  
• I REALLY want this! It would make EV training way easier to check and realize.

blordello escreveu:

resh escreveu:se o cara conseguiu prever em fevereiro um ataque tão especifico quanto o elétrico que drena hp, então n acho que devemos ignora-lo assim, e esse tipo fada seria mt bom
Fada será um novo tipo. Ele é fraco para veneno e Aço, imune ao Dragão, e super eficaz contra o Dragão, Dark, e do tipo Fighting Pokemon.
exalta o veneno e é um problema para os dragões, isso equilibraria mais o metagame

Realmente, vai ser legal se tiver mesmo esse novo tipo. Me pergunto que pokémon seriam tipo fada...

resh escreveu:

blordello escreveu:

resh escreveu:se o cara conseguiu prever em fevereiro um ataque tão especifico quanto o elétrico que drena hp, então n acho que devemos ignora-lo assim, e esse tipo fada seria mt bom
Fada será um novo tipo. Ele é fraco para veneno e Aço, imune ao Dragão, e super eficaz contra o Dragão, Dark, e do tipo Fighting Pokemon.
exalta o veneno e é um problema para os dragões, isso equilibraria mais o metagame

Realmente, vai ser legal se tiver mesmo esse novo tipo. Me pergunto que pokémon seriam tipo fada...

la diz que o sylveon é fada, e que alguns pokémons antigos serão reajustados como mawile que vai virar metal/fada

Marcando presença nesse novo topico

relembrando algumas coisas que queria no jogo

- Uma dex com 250 pokemon incluindo novos e antigos
- Poder montar em alguns pokemons
- Customização
- Bastante Lendarios (de preferencia poucos novos e a maioria antigo)
- Evoluçoes para pokemons esquecidos
- 2 Remakes por geração sendo assim essa seria um remake de Hoenn e Kanto, para facilitar para ter todos os pokemons sem precisar comprar outro console