[Rumores] Nintendo NX

Outra semana, outro rumor:

Mais poderoso que a geração atual, tecnicamente, fácil de desenvolver, várias formas de controlar, e boa notícia pro indies.

Não duvido da capacidade, mas não acho que vá ser um dos mais potentes da geração seguinte. Wii U era mais potente que PS3 e XBOX 360, mas não bate no PS4 e XBONE

Ficaria impressionado se a Nintendo investir pesado na potência do NX, e menos em acessórios. Se bem q a Nintendo tem a questão da inovação, que é boa.... em parte.

Dando uma resumida: mas poderoso q o ps4, 12gb de ram, não x86, sem retrocompatibilidade com wii U e 3ds, tradicional e fácil de desenvolver, conecta com androids, iOS, etc. Veio de um desenvolvedor de um RPG que já saiu pra ps4 e one e vai sair em dezembro pra NX.


Tirei daqui: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=215224&page=5#6

-Dev in question will have his game out in December-seems to be a port, it's already out already, an RPG

-I posted a rumour a while back and someone asked him about it, he said-"A lot seems to be right mixed up with some very obvious bullshit to throw people off, I imagine. I can tell you this, the name is not what that post says it is."

-It's a more traditional console, no 'new' way to play. His devkit comes with a standard controller and a a controller with a screen(screen is capacitive)-he describes it as -"The touch screen one is a bit harder to describe- imagine, like, a Wii U Pro, but stretched, and with a small screen embedded in the middle".

-Nintendo is pushing online more than before

-It's not x86, porting could be difficult, but it is easy to develop for, no obvious bottlenecks.

- "there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy,"

-There are scrolling buttons-the L and R buttons(are clickable, can be depressed). The triggers are analog

-Knows nothing about the handheld. He speculates Nintendo might have some AR gimmicks, but not the central point of the console he thinks.

-Says the controller with the screen doesn't seem to be as expensive as the WIi U controller, no guidelines for remote play. He speculates they could sell it as two SKUs, one with the screen and one without. He thinks embedded remote play could be the selling point of the former.

-Nintendo plans a Q2 reveal of the console, he's been told to have a trailer and demo build ready, to be deployed at a short notice anytime starting April. -I'm guessing April Direct and Nintendo Treehouse intervies and demos maybe?-

-Specs wise
"It is more powerful than the PS4 by any sensible metric. Overall, it is at least slightly more powerful
12GB on ours. A substantial portion may not be available to games (we can only go as high as 6GB right now)
1TB embedded HDD, pretty sure this is not the case for the consumer version, though
I'll tell you it's not x86 (but you can probably guess what it is)"

-It aims for connectivity with mobile devices

-About Online
"The online is definitely far better this time around. In general, it seems like we can 'plug in' (so to speak) loads of online features into our games without having to worrying about whether the backend even supports them, that we never could on Nintendo systems before. There's not much online functionality in our game, but even basic features that were missing before are present here."
"From a features perspective, however, I can confirm they are on par with the competition this time =)"

-This post seems to be accurate to him
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4c1ji6/before_april_fools_rolls_around_i_want_to_clear/

-You are extremely unlikely to get any photo leaks before the NX is announced officially by Nintendo. The studios (that I know of) that are building / porting to NX only have access to software. Some of these are not particularly small studios either.
Based on the length of development cycles / porting time - if the NX launches this year, then most third party games will not be available until early - mid 2017. Software / frameworks are great to get a head start, but they won't even consider finalizing a game until it's been fully tested on hardware.
Developers who claim to have signed an NDA with Nintendo are most probably lying. The studio will be under NDA with Nintendo and the developers/designers will be under some form of NDA from their studio (not Nintendo). The only exception would be small indie developers and it's very unlikely Nintendo would provide them with a development kit until after the reveal.
NX games will be able to share information across multiple devices. I am not 100% sure what type of information this will be, but the functionality is (apparently) available to third party developers.

-On the OS
"The OS seems to be fully accessible while the game is running. I can confirm that multitasking is a thing. The devkit can interact with Android and iOS tablets and phones, as well as PCs and Macs (I specifically tested for a Mac). From what I have been able to gather- and this part is strictly speculation- I think that the console will be able to construct a full profile for you by having you just pair up with a smartphone or tablet or PC, without you having to set one up."
"You can do this with games, although obviously, you need to have the other device programmed to be able to communicate with the console. In simple terms, games with smartphone apps will be able to instantly connect with their apps on phones or tablets, without nonsensical logins and pairings and synchronizations, and what not."
It resembles Android the most, a very bloated OS, in its current form. OS reserves 6GB, seems to run mostly fine.

-On the console and its relation to its other versions and other console hardware
"I think this version of the game is definitive, at least on consoles. It looks the best, performs the best, and has extra content included."
"It is a powerful, flexible traditional console, with very minor gimmicks that don't get in the way. Very unlike Nintendo, at least the Nintendo of the last 15 years."
:Uh, I'll make this my last answer for now: if the PS4.5 is real, I think it and the NX should be reasonably matched."

Keep in mind however, his game is a port and is already out on PS4 and XBO, and he likely has not had hands on the PS4.5.

-The EXT port interests him, has no idea what it is for, Nintendo is mum on it-it reminds him of the port on the bottom of a GC-. He has never worked on Nintendo console before.

-Disc is 25GB, dual layered discs are specified in the documentation

-Has HDMI 2.0a, USB 3.0, SD card slots and a LAN port, well his devkit has one anyway, but he doesn't think it will be on the final console.

-No backwards compatibility with Wii U or 3DS hardware

-"It is not a true hybrid. Looking into it, a lot of Geno's information seems to be false. As for whether or not this will be a flop- I can't predict that. I think it should do well. It is a well designed, good console, powerful, and Nintendo's third party outreach seems to be better this time around. I guess as long as Nintendo markets it well, it should do better than Wii U or Gamecube."

-His game has been in development since October, the first couple of months were on a software kit.

-He thinks the price will come in at $399, he thinks $250 seems unlikely, $300 maybe more likely.

-Maybe no OS level achievements? Interactive achievements are a thing, more like challenges or missions, but his dev team are implementing them as achievements.

-He says the name is 'marketable', says the Wii U was a terrible name.




Yah that's it. Like my previous post with that leaker, take with a mount fuji of salt. Keep in mind too he also says some things are wrong about the other guy's stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4cnkr8/i_am_a_developer_working_on_an_rpg_for_the_nx_ask/?sort=confidence


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Qual seria esse jogo? the witcher?
Se não x86, continuariam eles com o powerPC(como wii U, x360), ou iriam pra ARM(nvidia shield console)?
Rumor bem interessante.

Pra mim, o cara saber o nome é um grande indicativo de ser falso. Não acho que a nintendo revelaria o nome tão cedo, o nome do Xbox one só foi descoberto quando ele foi lançado. Essa eu não engulo.

pelo menos bate com os rumores do indie game chick...

JonathanAlis escreveu:Se não x86, continuariam eles com o powerPC(como wii U, x360), ou iriam pra ARM(nvidia shield console)?

Segundo o rumor, ele não é retrocompatível com Wii U, logo, não seria PowerPC, porque se não seria retrocompatível, então só sobraria ARM ou algo completamente inédito.
Mas rumor é rumor, não boto fé até sair informação da própria Nintendo. :v

Eu estava até acreditando, mas ai surgiu um 1TB HDD e voltei pra realidade.

ExtremeZelda escreveu:

JonathanAlis escreveu:Se não x86, continuariam eles com o powerPC(como wii U, x360), ou iriam pra ARM(nvidia shield console)?

Segundo o rumor, ele não é retrocompatível com Wii U, logo, não seria PowerPC, porque se não seria retrocompatível, então só sobraria ARM ou algo completamente inédito.
Mas rumor é rumor, não boto fé até sair informação da própria Nintendo. :v

Bem, o 3DS é ARM, então tbm poderíamos descartar o ARM tbm?
Bem, sei lá. Fizeram mó gambiarra pra ter a retrocompatibilidade com o wii no wii U, mesmo ambos sendo powerPC. Acho que não é tão simples assim.

Sei que é rumor, e que só a informação da nintendo é confiável, mas po, esse é um tópico sobre especulações.
O mundo das suposições, das ideias, força nossa inteligência imaginativa, e é divertido. Me amarro nisso, vou até sentir falta quando sairem as informações reais da nintendo.

vits escreveu:Eu estava até acreditando, mas ai surgiu um 1TB HDD e voltei pra realidade.

bem, a versão com 1 tera é a versão do devkit. ele descreveu como é o devkit q eles tem. Pode ser que o devkit seja bem diferente da versão final que vai ser comercializada pra nós. Pelo menos em questão de HD e outras coisas do tipo.
Então por isso acho que não é esse ponto que descrebilizaria o rumor.

O ponto mais fora pra mim é o controle opcional com tela 1080p e ser mais barato q o gamepad...
Se bem que tem muita especulação do próprio cara, coisas que ele só imagina, dado o que ele tem acesso(caso ele não esteja mentindo mesmo sobre o que ele tem acesso, rsrsrs), então sei lá.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/18/nintendo-supplemental-computing-devices-patent-cleared/

Parece que veremos algo como um sistema de armazenamento em Cloud no NX.
(E olha só, essa notícia é um fato, então tem mais chances de vermos esse sistema de Cloud no NX do que qualquer outra coisa apresentada nesse tópico)

Isso de Hardware de peso me anime e me dar medo... afinal é bom ter gráficos incriveis, mas quanto que vai custar essa bagaça ?

Os rumores mais recente agora dizem que um port de jogos como smash bros estão em desenvolvimento,e mario maker e splatoon também estão sendo considerados.

splatton vale a pena se tiver cross multyplayer.

chuto 400 dolares no console

Pior se vim mais fraco que NeoPs4 ou Ps4k (se for real). A história do WiiU iria se repetir.